Thursday, February 9, 2006

If Only It Was Science Fiction!

It almost seems like a scene from the original Star Trek:
If everything you say is lie and you say "you are lying" then you are telling the truth but you said you are lying...
Except of course the "logic" is from those other far out space nuts: Article 8 and Massresistance. Last week they were pointing out the the anti-gay, Nazi loving shooter was a "Violent, troubled punk":

The 18-year-old punk who attacked innocent people in a bar was clearly a mess, a Neo-Nazi wannabe, his room full of anti-black and anti-Semitic garbage (doesn't mention anything about shooting gay people). He went to a school for kids with discipline problems. The state had investigated his home in 2000 on suspicions of child neglect. A young man with serious mental health issues and social problems. Sick people exist in a world of their own. It's not anyone else's fault what a crazy man does.

And they were upset when the head of the NGLTF said:
Statement by Matt Foreman, Executive Director National Gay and Lesbian Task Force
"The hatred and loathing fueling this morning's vicious attack on gay men in New Bedford is not innate, it is learned. And who is teaching it? Leaders of the so-called Christian right, that's who. Individuals like James Dobson of Focus on the Family, the Family Research Council's Tony Perkins, the Rev. Pat Robertson and their ilk are obsessed with homosexuality. They use their vast resources, media networks and affiliated pulpits to blame lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people for all the ills of society. They disguise their hatred as 'deeply held religious beliefs.' We have witnessed seven years of vicious anti-LGBT organizing in Massachusetts — and endured the hate-filled rantings of Brian Camenker of the Article 8 Alliance and Parents Rights Coalition and Ed Pawlick of MassNews. The blood spilled this morning is on their hands."

While they don't like being linked to anti-gay violence, in countless posts and articles they are continuously trying to link the whole gay community to anything and anyone bad on the planet. From a their "friend" Joe:
The journalist also implies that the Roman Catholic Church is scapegoating gays for the scandals. I believe research will prove that most of the abuse was done by priests with sexually mature victims and that much of the abuse was male-to-male. (The constant refrain we hear is, "Oh, that's different, those priests weren't gay -- they were pedophiles.") I believe most of those responsible for the abuse can be classified as gay. If this is the case the Church should be heralded for rooting out this problem.
Of course Joe has no data just "speculation" because of his personal views on gay people. Or this:

And now in California's Bay area, public restrooms must play host to transsexual-transgendered freak shows. (Read the story in WorldNetDaily.) Imagine your little girl in the ladies' room as she observes a man/woman using the facilities. Bad enough little boys have to worry about homosexual pedophiles in men's restrooms. But now, even the ladies' rooms are unsafe!
What sources does she has that pedophiles in restrooms are gay, did they self identify? But of course the stereotyping isn't only linked to gay men:

The Springfield Republican reports that two women have been charged with the rape and assault of another woman, in a "sexual encounter that a prosecutor said started out consensual and turned into a rape involving handcuffs and knives."

The details of this sordid encounter remind us that one of the dangers of the lesbian "lifestyle" is a higher incidence of domestic violence than in heterosexual relationships. It also brings to mind just how dangerous the kinky, pansexual world can become, and how quickly people can slide down that slippery slope into dangerous perversions, including the sort of sadism described in the article

Or to gay people:

Isn't encouraging the homosexual lifestyle among our young people priestly child abuse, in another form?

But I'm the one with the "rage and angry energy".


Mass Marrier said...

Like you've been pointing out so well, a hallmark of these spite-blinded groups is their inability and unwillingness to take personal responsibility. Spew hate, dehumanize the "other" and then affect surprise when someone acts out on what you scream and argue for so long, so loudly.

Well, double duh.

Anonymous said...

First of all let me say that I'm sorry for my bad english. I come from europe and over many, many web links I finally reached I was really shocked. I mean sometimes we can read about your so called christians in our newspapers, but before you haven't seen their homepages you can't beleave it.

Militant christians - I always thought that's not possible. I mean even our european christian fundamentalists keep on saying hateful things and try to protect themselfes behind the bible. But they are not organizing themselfs in groups, which only goal seems to be to erase homosexuality. No, I think these people are no christians. They are just gay-haters who found a few sentences in the bible and misuse them for their own interests. Especially What else are they doing, except discriminating LGBTs? Finally it doesn't seem that they are trying to heal the world.

Europeans are wondering about the USA. Hatespeeches taken directly out of the bible. Parents who think their children can get infected with homosexuality just by listening. Military options against foreign cultures. A president who started a war because god has told him so. Politicians who support a declassifaction of human beeings. How much more barbarity can america's god produce?

What is with your former ideals? Freedom of speech - science and education - to save peace? Doesn't that count anymore? Do you realy need to teach your children how christians wish the world to be? You don't need to accept that! You don't need to go their way of hate and lies. You even do not have to be tollerant to these self-appointed do-gooders.

They are wrong and you have to keep on saying that! Do it for your country, for your society and even for yourself.

I pray for you that this awkward time of misunderstood christian belief will end quickly.

Richard Lewis said...

This note is to the European fellow in the previous post.

My perspective also comes from having been raised in Europe. London specifically.

The Christians in the U.S. use homosexuality as a fund raising tool. To get money the Churches need a bad guy that only their ministry can vanquish. That is what they sell. "The bad gay people are infiltrating our schools to steal away our children so you must give us money to combat them".

Atricle 8 and Mass Resistance type folks actually make a living doing this. WIthout us they have no current 'devil' with whom to do battle.

The good news is that since coming to the United States many years ago I have found the vast majority of Americans to be regular people who do not have an unhealthy preoccupation with other folks sex lives. My training in psychology would lead me to believe that beyond fundraising the second root cause of Amy and Brian and Kris being so extremely anti-gay might be found in difficulties in their own sex lives or lack thereof.

Anonymous said...

actually, what Joe said is true, 3/4 of the boys molested were around ages 15-16-17, which are postpubescent ages. So that would make the priests who molested those kids homosexuals.

Anonymous said...

Can you provide backing for that? The suits and settlements explicitly deal with abuse of children (male and female) under the age of consent.